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Merge proposal
[edit]What's the difference between this article and the social psychology (sociology) one? I understand that the difference has been acknowledged, but the definitions between the 2 aren't all that distinct.
Social psychology: "Social psychology is the methodical study of how thoughts, feelings, and behaviors are influenced by the actual, imagined, or implied presence of others."
Social psychology (sociology): "social psychology studies the relationship between the individual and society."
You could say the difference lies in the first half of the sentences (the "individual" vs. the "thoughts, feelings, and behavior"), but the word "individual" kind of already delineates those terms by default. Senomo Drines (talk) 03:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- They're different subfields. Sociology is a different domain than psychology. Both articles make pretty clear how this is the case if one actually reads the body rather than the first few sentences. I don't even get the idea that a merger is possible, never mind ideal. Remsense ‥ 论 04:28, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Clear, how? If the lead section didn't make it clear, then that isn't a good sign. Can you elaborate on the difference then, if you disagree with the merge? Senomo Drines (talk) 04:53, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I cannot read the articles you decided were the same for you. Remsense ‥ 论 06:18, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- The burden of proof is on you. And you definitely can read, you aren't illiterate. Sounds more like an excuse not to discuss any further about the merge. Besides, you think the articles shouldn't be merged, yet you ask me that you can't read it because "its the same for you", which is telling me that you do support the change. Please elaborate as stated prior instead of trying to shut this discussion down without proper input. At the very least, state the difference between Social psychology and Social psychology (sociology). That shouldn't be too hard. Senomo Drines (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- The burden of proof is on you
- ...it's quite clearly not, at all. Please refrain from messing with articles you can't even bother reading. Remsense ‥ 论 13:02, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Ok then, specify where I should read. I already gave my piece as to why the merge should happen. "Social psychology is the methodical study of how thoughts, feelings, and behaviors are influenced by the actual, imagined, or implied presence of others." and "social psychology studies the relationship between the individual and society." bare little difference.
- My question is, why do I have to put in the work to prove your point? You are being intentionally and curtly vague when you say I need to "read" the article. If its this line, "Although studying many of the same substantive topics as its counterpart in the field of psychology, sociological social psychology places relatively more emphasis on the influence of social structure and culture on individual outcomes, such as personality, behavior, and one's position in social hierarchies", then yes, you can definitely say for certain that's the difference, but to what extent does that make it independent from the other article? The very same line admits that there is "many of the same substantive topics as its counterpart", so a merge isn't out of the question.
- I would be willing to compromise if you will amend the definition so that the difference between the 2 is abundantly clear. I simply don't think there is enough of a difference between the 2 fields to warrant separation, especially if the article itself admits there's a lot of overlap. Senomo Drines (talk) 13:19, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- If you haven't read either article, then you need not worry as to whether they should be merged—such things can be left to someone who actually cares about the topics in question. Remsense ‥ 论 13:21, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- The burden of proof is on you. And you definitely can read, you aren't illiterate. Sounds more like an excuse not to discuss any further about the merge. Besides, you think the articles shouldn't be merged, yet you ask me that you can't read it because "its the same for you", which is telling me that you do support the change. Please elaborate as stated prior instead of trying to shut this discussion down without proper input. At the very least, state the difference between Social psychology and Social psychology (sociology). That shouldn't be too hard. Senomo Drines (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I cannot read the articles you decided were the same for you. Remsense ‥ 论 06:18, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Clear, how? If the lead section didn't make it clear, then that isn't a good sign. Can you elaborate on the difference then, if you disagree with the merge? Senomo Drines (talk) 04:53, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
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